Who is the “real” Apostle? 3:30 a.m. October 22, 2008 in Parowan,
President Boyd K. Packer, President of the Quorum of the
Twelve Apostles Speaking at
his Forest Bend Ward, Salt Lake City UT Sunday, October
12, 2008.
It was
recorded on a cell phone and typed word for word.
Apostle Packer: "Even though I regularly have the
opportunity to attend Fast and Testimony meeting,
I don't usually
stand to speak. But today, I feel moved upon by the Spirit to share a
message…
Last weekend's
General Conference was different than any before. We felt that
down at Church Headquarters and have been talking about it all week.
We live in
troubled times. There is great financial crisis and we've seen something
that hasn't happened in the last 60 years: the world's financial markets
are collapsing. I was six
years old when the Great Depression began: the 10th of 11 children. My
father was a mechanic and times were difficult for all of us. Many
families were suddenly out of work all at once. There were large public
projects to try and provide employment – like the great ditch or canal I
remember being dug here in our city. It was at least six feet deep and dug
by hand, with pick and ax. Nowadays, we'd use a piece of machinery to do
it. But in those days, people worked with what we had. They were desperate
times for many. There were things as a child that I didn't understand and
was afraid of. I didn't like to go into the basement of our home. I
thought the Boogeyman lived there. But as I grew older and we got some
lights down there, I realized that the great dark space underneath the
stairs was a large pile of old shoes. As a pair of shoes we were wearing
would wear out or break down, we didn't throw them out.
We would use a
shoe from that old pile as spare parts to repair our shoes or make new
ones.
It was just the way you did things in those
times.
There's a
scripture that says "Yet learn we obedience by the same things we suffer."
It seems sometimes that we don't learn until we need to turn and rely upon
the Lord. In the Book
of Mormon, well, if you looked in my copy, in the Book of Helaman about
chapter 12 or 13, you'd see that I've written-in a swirling chain of
circles across the top of the page. It might look like old cursive, but
that's not what it's meant to be. It's meant to remind me of the cycles of
the people. In times when they were blessed with great prosperity and
wealth, they forgot the Lord. Then when they fell to bad habits which led
some to wickedness and placed many in peril, the righteous would
turn/return to the Lord in their humbler circumstances. It's a cycle of
prosperity and wickedness we see repeated over and over again in the
scriptures and now again in our day.
I remember once I went deer
hunting with Brother Tuttle and some others. We were up in the mountains,
riding on horseback. He went up one side of the canyon, and I went up the
other. As I was riding, I bent over and just nearly kissed the saddle horn
as we passed a low cedar tree that was right by the path. Well as we
passed the cedar tree, there was no more path on the other side of it and
the way before us was just a dropping hillside covered with loose shaley
rock. I kicked my feet clear of the stirrups, just in case the horse
reacted badly, and it was a good thing I did. She reared up and I was
thrown back. I hit my head on some rocks and got a cut right above my
eyebrow that was bleeding heavily. I'd been holding my rifle in my hand
and as my hand flew back and hit heavily against a rock, it broke as well.
So I was laying there hurt and shaken. My companions on the other side of
the canyon had seen what happened and I heard Brother Tuttle call out "Are
you hurt?" I replied "Yes, I'm bleeding!" He called out again "Are you
hurt?" I called again "Yes, I'm bleeding!", but the wind was blowing the
wrong way and they couldn't hear me. The fourth time this happened, I
yelled in response "No!" And they called back "Okay!" and continued to
ride on up the mountain. That's lesson
one!
I
finally got myself up, caught my horse down the mountain where she had
gotten caught in some branches, and managed to get into town where I was
bandaged up and my hand was tended to. Shortly after that, I was traveling
on business and was at the airport. A fellow traveler, an older man not of
our faith, saw my bandaged hand and asked if I was all right.
I
replied rather offhandedly. And he responded that it was something I would
remember all the rest of my days. He then told me that he had once worked
at digging a canal – now that caught my attention because I remembered the
canal I have mentioned. He said that he was out of work at the time [the
Great Depression] and couldn't find employment. He saw the canal being dug
and knew that if he asked the foreman for a job, he would be turned away.
He saw a spare pick laying there, so he picked it up and started working.
A short while later, the foreman walked by and, not recognizing him, asked
him what he was doing. He explained to me that he told the foreman he was
out of work and stated "I need to work.
You don't have to pay me, but
I need to work."
Well, as you might expect, they worked things out
and he was paid for his labors. We then proceeded to talk, this older
fellow and I, and I have remembered his counsel. Now I am the old man
giving counsel to you. In the Great Depression, people were frightened and
growing more so. They began to be very resourceful. They had to be.
Looking forward, we're all going to learn that lesson, one way or another.
The Church is in
excellent condition. You don't need to worry about that. But as
individuals we will face difficulty. Some will come
to the Bishop seeking financial aid and counsel. And as judges in
Times
of/for that sort of expense in the Church are past.]
President Packer
then shared experiences of providing aid and service after the great
Tsunami devastated
"What do
you need?" I asked. "Body bags" was the reply. So we found
20,000 body bags in
The Church is
sound and is able to provide these types of aid as a back-up where there
is need. We [as
members and in our individual wards] are the back-up position of the
Church. Learn to apply the old Pioneer adage – "Eat [use] it up. Wear it
out. Make do, or do without." We're going to have to learn to do without.
Again, "Eat it up. Wear it out. Make do, or do without."
Even if we
have the resources, we need to do more to be thrifty. Others will rely on
us. The Church will rely on us. It is our responsibility and duty to be
caring for ourselves, our family, and those around us. Be watching for
need. Set something by that we can be of help to others when the time
comes.
Trust in the counsel of our wise elders/older
people.
There are nearly 60,000 missionaries serving throughout
the world today. The cost to support a missionary is right about $400 a
month today. That's $4,800 a year. Consider if we have the resources
that there may be others who don't and who have a need. When Brother
Tuttle was a young man, he had a strong desire to serve a mission. But he
didn't have the money to pay for it, and his family didn't have the money
for it. So Brother Tuttle thought of who was the richest man in his town
and, after saying a prayer, he approached him. A loan was made, a mission
served, and the loan repaid.
Those who need our help may not
always ask us. It's about time the Lord taught us a lesson. A great
catastrophe is coming. Now I probably shouldn't say that because then it
will happen. But it is going to happen. That's what
it will take to turn our hearts to the Lord. And we will learn from it.
Our prayers will be different, less selfish. The scripture says "If ye are
prepared, ye need not fear." Renew your prayers. You can [also] think a
prayer. Carry a prayer in your heart throughout the day. Learn to pray for
that which is of worth. Another scripture says "…do not spend money for
that which is of no worth, nor your labor for that which cannot satisfy."
(2 Nephi 9:51) That can be applied both spiritually [to prayer] and
physically.
Use what we have.
If something is broken, fix it. Our
young people are going to see different times than what they are used to.
To you teenagers, your life will be different. Things are changing. You
will have to do without some of the things you are used to expecting.
Don't be afraid. Change your life to do without the extravagances and
luxuries that you've expected.
Learn to pray. There's a difference
between `saying prayers' and praying.
A wonderful time
is coming – it's not going to be easy, and it's not going to be short. But
don't be afraid.
Brother
Tuttle was one of the Seventy when there were just seven of them. Now
there are eight quorums of the Seventy called to go throughout all the
world. It's an apostolic calling to teach the gospel to every nation,
people and tongue. They'll know what to do and will lead and counsel where
they are called. Take care of what we've got. Begin to save. The rainy day is
coming – in fact, the snowy day is already here [in reference to today's
first winter snow]. Reset our
expectations. Give up selfishness. Wickedness is all around us. In today's
world, it's not safe for children to be outside alone. We need to be ever
watchful. We need to protect ourselves from the wickedness, avarice, and
greed in the world. Read the scriptures and the revelations. The guidance
and counsel are there. Read with new eyes, and the scriptures, the Book of
Mormon, will take on new meaning.
As President Bush and world
leaders gather in the coming week and the weeks ahead, there will be no
easy answers or solutions. Hard times are
ahead and it's difficult for them to see what to do. It's important to
listen to the Sprit. We are led by prophets and apostles. We can see
ahead. We can be and are prepared.
I pronounce upon
you an Apostolic blessing. Comfort our
children. Little children can be afraid of things we might not think of.
Comfort them and strengthen our families. Turn off the television and
focus on family.
Pay your
tithing. The promise is there – pay your tithing and you'll be watched
over. You'll be alright.
None of
us is exempt from trials.
If hard times come upon you and your income
dwindles, remember that
tithing is equitable for everyone: 10%. If you have nothing, then it's 10%
of practically nothing. Pay your tithing, do what you're supposed to do.
You'll be
comforted. Sure trials will come. Because of them, faith will increase.
Happiness will
increase. Security will increase. You'll be glad to be alive at this time.
It's a good time to be living. To be raising children. I leave this
testimony, counsel, and blessing with you in the holy
name of Jesus Christ. Amen."
As he
said “The Church is in excellent
condition. You don't need to worry about that.” So why
doesn’t he order a few hundred thousand “Body Bags” for the Wasatch Front
in
He said: “A great
catastrophe is coming. Now I probably shouldn't say that because then it
will happen. But it is going to happen.”
He thinks
financial trouble is ahead. Well everyone can see that Apostle Packer,
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He said: “A wonderful time is coming – it's not
going to be easy, and it's not going to be short. But don't be
afraid.”
But the
Parowan Prophet says “Bad times” are ahead! Millions will be dead. Yea,
hundreds of millions will be killed. It is not wonderful to see and will
last for years.
He
said:
“We are led by
prophets and apostles. We can see ahead. We can be and are
prepared.”
prophets and apostles
can see ahead
Then
why does he not do what the Lord
commanded and warn the
people? “Behold, I
sent you out to testify and warn the people,
and it becometh every man who hath been warned to warn his
neighbor.
82
Therefore, they are left without excuse, and their sins are upon
their own heads.
83
He that seeketh me early shall find me, and shall not be forsaken.
84
Therefore, tarry ye, and labor diligently, that you may be perfected in
your ministry to go forth among the Gentiles for the last time, as many as
the mouth of the Lord shall name, to bind up the law and seal up the
testimony, and to prepare the saints for the hour of judgment which is
to
come.
and to prepare the
saints
85
That their souls may escape the wrath of
God, the
desolation of abomination (A-bomb-a
Nation) which awaits the wicked,
both in this world and in the world to come.”
Doctrine and Covenants 88: 81-85
He said:
“Pay your
tithing. The promise is there – pay your tithing and you'll be watched
over.
You'll be alright.” You’ll be
alright.
you'll be watched over.
But the
Parowan Prophet says that a million Mormons, many who are tithe payers will get burned up, and get to see
the eternal fire in the world to come. Just
like the scripture tell us.
He said:
“Happiness will increase. Security will increase. You'll be
glad to be alive at this time. It's a good time to be living. To be
raising children. I
leave this testimony, counsel, and blessing with
you.”
But the
Parowan Prophet says that “misery” not happiness is
ahead. Many will wish they were dead already. It will be
terrible times to live. I leave this testimony with you.
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I received this email
today, 10/22/08 @ 9:31 am. from A READER of my
web site. He apparently read what I put on at 3:30 a.m. last night. The
story below is his email to me.
If your a watchman on the tower and 30,000 pissed off
Natives are bearing down on your city, and you only have 500 men and 3500
Grown women (do the math there) and an ass load of children, don't
you think you should warn the people to get the hell out of dodge city and
don't turn back as Jesus councils in Matthew Chapter 24? I now
will quote the watchman on the tower...Apostle (Boyd K. Packer) "hay guys and gals hope
your all having a great day, my day is going just great (now
the natives faces are clearly in view and boy are they
mad!!!) We are about to
experience a very small amount of destruction, but don't
worry, I want all the men to take
their 10% down to the treasury, bring your receipts back with you and we
will present them to the enemy and they will spare our lives, we are good
people and nothing can hurt us as long as we obey God……yaaawwwnnn ! ! !
Well now that’s all I have to say, I have been through a similar
trial when I was a child (the depression) and we got through it just
fine and all will be well don't worry...
Hay Brother
Freeborn,……what
the hell are you doing? put that weapon down
now...can't you see they are already pissed off? now we wouldn't
want to make them an more angry....Brother Freeborn
leans back up from the 300 power scope of his fully automatic .50 caliber
LONG RANGE weapon and says here have a look in here, there
are about 450,000 more of them on the far Horizon, and they are riding
hard and fast....Here look for yourself....(Boyd K.Packer
says) Oh shut up, you can't tell me nothing I don't already know?
God says he is a prince of peace and he isn’t never going to let this
(LDS) people be destroyed again...without another word Brother Freeborn then takes his
weapon and climbs down off the wall and gets on his horse and exits the
city walls to the WEST....He spurs his horse hard and rides off into the
sunset with about 20 other people riding hard on his heels....After riding
at full speed for over an hour....they stop on top of a large butte to
rest....They turn back to look at the city and smoke and fire and
explosions are coming out of her, Men woman and children begin pouring out
of the walls, the enemy devours them up like a hungry dog eats scraps of
meat from his masters table....NONE are spared, Leland looks through
his scope at the horror unfolding, and beholds the watchman,(Apostle
Packer) still safe upon his tower, is now on his knees supplicating God
for safety from the mob that is ascending the stairs...
Suddenly the
door is kicked in and a bag of tithing receipts is thrown into the air and
shotgun blasts blow it all to pieces in a second....and a loud voice is
heard from heaven.....behold the wrath of God is upon the harlots of this
city and none can stay it....CHOP!!!!
And Leland slowly lowers
the weapon, a tear of JOY (for his life) falls to the ground from his
weathered and sun burnt face, molded by the sands of time and glowing with
the light of GOD.... he turns to the small group to speak, only to see
they are all on their knees also with tears of joy flowing like rivers,
thanking Lord for his mercy, they mount up a short time later and are
swallowed up by fast approaching darkness never to turn back. Have a
nice day,,,,get your shit together
...Brian
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